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Is this a Legal Road Marking?

By: Tracy Wilkinson - Updated: 4 Oct 2020 | comments*Discuss
 
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Q.

A white line has recently been painted on the road near my home. It looks like and H with a long middle, it is approximately 5 m long.

The occupier of the house has disabled parking only signs in his house window. Is this a legal road marking for disabled parking?

(Mrs Vivian Black, 30 September 2008)

A.

If a disabled resident has requested a disabled parking space and their application has been accepted, they would usually be provided with a rectangular space outside the property that they reside in. In most cases, the space provided would be in the region of 6.6m x 2.7m, laid out in 50mm white painted lines. Although the disabled parking bay will have been requested by a specific resident or residents, and the application approved, the council will not be able to guarantee that the space is always reserved for that one person - any blue badge holder would be legally allowed to use the bay.

So what is the H-Bar Marking For?

If the property has a marking that looks like an elongated 'H' Bar on the road outside, then it is not there as a disabled parking bay, it is actually there to remind other road users that there is a need for constant access to the driveway or entrance and that they should not park there under any circumstances.

Where Should the Markings Be?

The markings on the H-Bar are usually the same width as the driveway, and so should mark the area where the kerb becomes sloped on either side - this means that they are usually placed around a metre or so from the edge of the drive.

It's my H-Bar marking - can I park there?

It is important that if an application for a disabled access parking space is accepted, then the resident does not park any vehicles there, regardless of whether or not they have a disabled badge. If people are visiting them, they should also avoid parking there. The whole point of the bay markings is to show that it is important that there is access available to the driveway at all times, and if someone consistently parks over the markings, then the H-bars will be removed by the council as they will be deemed not necessary.

What Happens if Someone Ignores the Markings and Obstructs the Driveway?

If someone parks over the H-Bar markings and obstructs the entrance to the driveway, then depending on local council regulations for the area of residency, then a fixed penalty notice may be issued to the offending driver.

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Hey Bilbo, comment is old so hope you got sorted. You can appeal a decision stating reasons and photographic evidence of your present problems. Please talk to all your neighbours and give your reasons to your requests as people don’t always notice your situation. You can request a wide H but you’ll possibly have to pay for that to be installed; but again, talk to your neighbours. They may be more reasonable than you think
Al - 4-Oct-20 @ 11:52 AM
Hi, the H shape line for parking front of my house has faced, so I repainted it. I was stoped by a neighbour from doing so. Can I know if I can repaint the H bar myself? Will I be fined? What do I do next?? The only reason I painted it as it was faded and the neighbours block out drive through. Please help. Randy - 20-Aug-20 @ 12:59 PM You can request repainting from you local council who may refer you to Highways.You cannot paintor touch up the existing line yourself.It must go through proper channels .
Al - 4-Oct-20 @ 11:44 AM
Can I have a H white line outside my house without dropping the kerb? Next door keeps parking partly over our side deliberately so my husband can't park outside our house. Next door has a driveway and can also park 3 cars outside their home but she is doing this deliberately to annoy my husband. We have a driveway but can only park 1 car in drive and other outside Infront of garden.
Scotland - 20-Sep-20 @ 1:18 PM
People are so ignorant to disabled parking the police are not police anymore.
Murf - 9-Sep-20 @ 12:43 AM
Hi, the H shape line for parking front of my house has faced, so I repainted it. I was stoped by a neighbour from doing so. Can I know if I can repaint the H bar myself? Will I be fined? What do I do next?? The only reason I painted it as it was faded and the neighbours block out drive through. Please help.
Randy - 20-Aug-20 @ 12:59 PM
I’m disabled. And live on a dead end road will 30 address. On my side there are 2 drives. Opposite Opposite my neighbours drive is another drive we all have dropped curbs except on our side of the road if you want to continue a drop curb. The council put a H bar on road as I was being completely blocked in by drivers parking on other side of the road, road is only just wide enough for 2 cars wing mirror to wing mirror, council have said that people parking and blocking access should be reported to police. I have this one lad now. Only this person, just passed his test parking in way of access. So have spoken to him and got the usually grumpy reply, he moves it eventually. And as soon as I’m out parks back. Even if there is other spaces. So told police. They have said it’s antisocial behaviour. And they are sending some pco’s around to see him. Nothing as yet has happened but he has been parked out in front of drive for last 3 days. Not moved and think he has gone away. I’ve not needed To go out as had flu. as far as I know they not teaching them about right of access or H bars even though they in the Highway Code. As each area has a different penalty system. Police here have to warn them just one time. Then next time the vehicle is removed. £60 fine then storage costs. But as he a new drive it can be 3 points on his licence aswell. Some areas of uk there have vehicle that go round looking for these parking Offensive. And ticket them. Like traffic wardens (ie London) every area should be the same ruling. I’ve have to cancel lots of appointments because of not been able to get out. And some of these appointments are in early hours of the morning.
Frig - 10-Feb-20 @ 6:33 AM
I've got a long drive and at the bottom,people have been parking across it.The driveway needs to be kept clear as I have carers coming in everyday.Ive had some road marking painted on the road so people won't park over them,they have ignored these warnings,what else can I do?They say it doesn't mean anything.
Mary - 7-Nov-19 @ 6:49 PM
Can I park with the front of my car overhanging the end of the H bar (the wheels are not touching it)?
Clive - 9-May-19 @ 4:18 PM
I paid £1700 for my dropped kerb and £80 for the H bar. People still try and park over one end of the H bar. I need to know what I can do to stop this happening. I can still access my drive but my view (and that if motorists passing my house) is limited due to the car being parked over my H bar. I have had the work done over the last two weeks
G - 14-Apr-19 @ 3:34 PM
Can your wheels be on the white line? That is, you are parked correctly but your wheels are actually on the line?
Confused Bristol - 1-Apr-19 @ 4:25 PM
My husband and I are both reg disabled blue badge holders. . Yes we have a very narrow drive and ability to access is difficult as our neighbours drive in on a higher level we both use mobility scooters and need to open doors wide enough to put these in, it’s not easy when the neighbours have several cars and a long drive enough to pRk all cars, but they prefer. To park on road for ease of access so they don’t have to move several cars. Without much knowledge of the system we requested the council provide a disabled parking spot . We were turned down as they quoted our neighbours would find it inconvenient, it seemed their wants were being put before our needs. Had I known at the time I would have requested this H white bar system , but was not told of this alternative.. Should I make a new request?
Bilbo - 23-Jan-19 @ 7:04 PM
I have a drop kirb for my car as I am disabled my neighbor keeps parking in the middle of my drop kirb and there drop kirb I am disabled and find it difficult to get of my drive can I do anything about it
Kat - 26-Oct-18 @ 6:14 PM
Jubabes - Your Question:
I have a H bar across my drive and the neighbours friend still parks about a yard onto it, is this allowed

Our Response:
H markings have no legal standing but usually act as a deterrent to would be parkers. If you are being prevented from exiting your driveway, i.e it's causing an obstruction, the police may be able to help.
SaferMotoring - 18-Sep-18 @ 2:34 PM
I have a H bar across my drive and the neighbours friend still parks about a yard onto it, is this allowed
Jubabes - 17-Sep-18 @ 5:30 PM
We are 10 neibourer with road side parking, my question is can we mark the road pedestrian edge with white line so we should know the exact parking space while parking our cars. I am just wondering do we need to contact council or not just for little marking line for car park. We have agreed to do marking with white paint but we are not sure about legal side can anyone please guide us because we don't want any trouble by the council. Please please reply me as soon as possible much appreciated for help and information.
Tony - 10-Sep-18 @ 8:28 PM
Hi am thinking of putting a h-bar outside my driveway do i need permission n how much does it cost paid£1000 for dropcurb to still have people park on it
slippy - 20-Aug-18 @ 8:17 AM
Spike - Your Question:
How can I get a H mark outside are home I’m disabled and housebound yet family, friends, nurses, & Ambulance struggles to park even on my driveway. Because the people who live next door have from twenty cars a day, and block my driveway I’ve had to call the police because of threats they told us to call 999. But they are gone before the police come.

Our Response:
Talk to your local council about this, they will be able to advise you on the cost and whether it's possible in your location.
SaferMotoring - 10-Aug-18 @ 2:30 PM
How can I get a H mark outside are home I’m disabled and housebound yet family, friends, nurses, & Ambulance struggles to park even on my driveway. Because the people who live next door have from twenty cars a day, and block my driveway I’ve had to call the police because of threats they told us to call 999. But they are gone before the police come.
Spike - 9-Aug-18 @ 7:12 PM
I used to have a disabled box oitside my property, but still my hubby struggled to park so we decided to get a driveway put in. I had the disabled box taken off and replaced with a " H BAR". Thankfully I didnt have to pay with being disabled. But I was told it would have cost me £136 if I had to have paid. I would say every council will have different prices bit just check before applying.
Karen - 27-Jun-18 @ 10:19 PM
Ive decided to get an h bar across my property,im sick of folk blocking my drive,when they can easily park on the front,if its ignored how doi get them to stop,otherwise it will be a complete waste of money having it done
kazthetaz - 29-May-18 @ 10:30 PM
I live in a road with very limited parking and lately the council have been giving certain households permission to have driveways installed, one particularly neighbour has had a H bar also painted outside her property which has been granted due to recent bad health, lately now said neighbours daughter has passed her driving test & subsequent also got a car, now said neighbour has narrowed her driveway by installing a walk through gate & double driveway gates for access to the property narrowing the access point for a vehicle by approximately 2-3 foot. They have also out a sign up outside the property instructing people not to park on "ANY PART OF OUR DRIVEWAY" but have also decided to park both vehicles outside the property side by side within the H bar markings as their own reserved spaces, is it legal to use the H bar driveway access point for this or do I have a right to ask the local authorities to review the H bar system as it isn't being used for the purpose intended & if I can appeal what evidence would I need.
Frustrated neighbour - 24-Apr-18 @ 12:39 PM
I have a small back gated which I used to get my motorbike in and out of. Recently a Thames water van keeps parking in front of my gate making it really hard for me to get my motorbike out. I have left a note on his van to politely ask him not to park in front of my gate, but he just ignores it. So frustrating as there’s plenty of space for Him to park without blocking my gate. Isn’t there anything I can do?
SharonEM71 - 28-Mar-18 @ 9:13 PM
I Have a H bar outsidemy house people park opposite the H bar can I do anything about
Eddy - 14-Mar-18 @ 8:36 PM
Someone has had a white line painted across my mums drive without her permission What's are her rights as to getting it removed.
Cuddles - 7-Mar-18 @ 8:50 PM
Lisa - Your Question:
Can you tell me how much a H bar costs to have put outside your house at the bottom of the drive we have a constant use of it and our neighbour parks over the drive or when they have visitors

Our Response:
You local council's highways department will be able to tell you how much they charge for this and whether it is permissible.
SaferMotoring - 5-Feb-18 @ 2:08 PM
Can you tell me how much a H bar costs to have put outside your house at the bottom of the drive we have a constant use of it and our neighbour parks over the drive or when they have visitors
Lisa - 2-Feb-18 @ 8:01 PM
Hello! I’ve had a constant issue for almost two years with neighbours & their visitors parking in front of my driveway thus blocking me in & out of my property almost every day. My local council and PSCOs seem unphased by my issue but if I do get an H-bar, what will/should be heir course of action if the issue persists? I think it’s so silly to make people pay out of pocket for the ignorance and sheer selfishness of others. I had a family member rushed into hospital one very early morning three hours away from me and was unable to get to them until late afternoon due to being blocked in & the police not assisting me.
Nina - 21-Jan-18 @ 1:13 PM
Ally - Your Question:
I have a small gate on my property I don’t own a car and really don’t have a problem with people parking outside my property but seem to have a lot of people parking right across my access and I cannot get my push bike in or out and wheelie bins and have to try find driver to move so I can get my bike in and sometimes my bins don’t get empty because that hem them in

Our Response:
It sounds as though you have no pavement, so it is very inconsiderate of these vehicle owners to park in this way. Have you considered putting up a small sign indicating that you need accessis needed for bike, pushchairs, wheelchairs etc? People may think twice before parking. If it becomes a peristent issue contact your local police or PCSO.
SaferMotoring - 5-Jan-18 @ 10:40 AM
Hi, I’m hoping someone can provide me with some information. My neighbours paid to have a H bar painted on a dropped kerb, there is no driveway, just their and my side entrance paths leading to our gates. The dropped kerb & H bar covers both of our properties. The person currently living in the property has a car which they are trying to sell parked on their path, they have another car & I also have one. Rather than parking outside of their property & over the H bar in front of the car they are trying to sell, they will park outside of mine, so, as the car on the path is not in use I will sometimes park over the H bar at night & move in the morning. I guess what I’m asking is, should the car be parked on a side entrance path & has the H bar any authority as there isn’t a driveway, just 2 garden paths. I really hope someone can help, the council haven’t got back to me after almost a month & im fed up of this causing issues, there has been no problem in the 4 years I & the H bar have been here until recently. Many Thanks
gemimapduck - 4-Jan-18 @ 11:20 PM
Hi, I’m hoping someone can provide me with some information. My neighbours paid to have a H bar painted on a dropped kerb, there is no driveway, just their and my side entrance paths leading to our gates. The dropped kerb & H bar covers both of our properties. The person currently living in the property has a car which they are trying to sell parked on their path, they have another car & I also have one. Rather than parking outside of their property & over the H bar in front of the car they are trying to sell, they will park outside of mine, so, as the car on the path is not in use I will sometimes park over the H bar at night & move in the morning. I guess what I’m asking is, should the car be parked on a side entrance path & has the H bar any authority as there isn’t a driveway, just 2 garden paths. I really hope someone can help, the council haven’t got back to me after almost a month & im fed up of this causing issues, there has been no problem in the 4 years I & the H bar have been here until recently. Many Thanks
gemimapduck - 4-Jan-18 @ 11:07 PM
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